The Shining - What do you think?

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The Shining - What do you think?

Post  Polidano on Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:33 am

We touched upon this in class....but why do you think Jack Torrence's likeness is seen in the picture of the Overlook during the 1921 July 4th ball?


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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  Qeisiehs on Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 am

Jack Torrence’s likeness has been seen in the overlook hotel on July 4th 1921 with many people surrounding him and he is the main person in the shot sitting right front and center because people thought of him as just a guest a very likeable guest and didn’t see what’s underneath he would act like he is this nice lovable person but on the inside he was a miserable person who felt trapped. He was a recreation of himself living his same life over and over at the overlook hotel, which made him feel trapped and with that everyone would like him and get used to the fact that he is there.

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Post  Liam Pile on Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:26 pm

The reason Jack Torrance is inside the picture is because he was been there before. Jack keeps on being reincarnated and brought back to the hotel since it is apart of him. We can see Jack in the film discussing how he loves the hotel and feels like home, this is because Jack and the hotel have a connection. He is reincarnated over and over again and is back at this hotel, which creates the idea that maybe the Overlook has the power to recall it;s reincarnated guests and employees. Jack's spirit is doomed inside the hotel forever, and it seems that he is another victim that is trapped at the Overlook.

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The Shining

Post  PatrickMitchell on Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:40 pm

The Shining is a film of full of questions and ambiguities. What is the true secret of room 237? Who is Danny’s imaginary friend, Tony? Is the Overlook hotel really haunted or was it just hallucinations created by the Torrance’s? The most pressing question is: why was Jack in the staff photo of the Overlook Hotel on July 4th, 1921? Jack Torrance’s likeliness is seen in the staff picture of the Overlook Hotel as Jack is the reincarnation of the previous hotel caretaker which is proven through conversations with Grady and Wendy. The first piece of evidence happens when Jack uses his shining ability to join a roaring gala in the ballroom. There, he has a conversation with butler, Delbert Grady. Grady explains to Jack that he has always been a resident of the hotel for as long as he can remember. “No sir, you’re the caretaker. You’ve always been the caretaker. I ought to know. I’ve always been here” (The Shining, 1980). This lends proof to the reincarnation theory as it seems all members of the hotel are fated to be pulled back into the hotel in each of there next lives. Such is shown with Grady, who was a butler in the 20s and was reincarnated decades later in the same position. The second piece of evidence towards the reincarnation theory happens when Jack and Wendy are talking at breakfast. Upon Wendy asking what her husband thinks of the hotel, he replies “When I came up here for my interview, it was as though I had been here before. I mean, we all have moments of 'Deja-vu,' but this was ridiculous.” (The Shining, 1980) This Déjà vu feeling could be explained as Jack returning to the place he has been several times in previous lives. Jack had been born, raised and lured to the hotel many times in his past that he has become aware of it. Jack Torrance was, still is and will always be the caretaker of the Overlook hotel, no matter which life he lives. He is doomed to be stuck within the walls of the Overlook forever.

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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  Justinmarcus on Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:35 pm

I think Jack or at least someone that looks him is in the picture is because he is now a part of the hotel’s history. It seems like in the movie’s lore, there is a cycle of murder and violent acts that occur with a new caretaker of the hotel. The previous caretaker is known to have murdered his wife and two daughters, and then taken his own life. This same caretaker is then seen as a vision to Jack and is now manipulating him to continue the cycle with now Wendy and Danny being the victims, along side of Dick Hallorann. I think this person in the image looks like Jack because it is a different version of Jack. The Jack we know in the movie is reincarnated from the one in the final image. Our Jack is here to continue the cycle of violence. The ghost of Jack will possibly do the same as Delbert Grady and manipulate the next caretaker into killing their family to make up for Jack’s failure.

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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  chrisn on Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:51 pm

“Nothing brings out that feeling more than the film’s final shot - a zoom in on an Overlook staff party from 1921, where it appears Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson), the film’s lovely central character, is standing front and center.”
In the picture of the Overlook, it is significant because you can see Jack Torrence in the front of the crowd of the picture. It is seen because this tells us that he has always been the caretaker.

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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  Laura_B on Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:15 am

The likeness of Jack Torrence in the picture of the overlook was to show that he is a part of the hotel. It can imply reincarnation and that he has always been a caretaker there. It can also imply that Jack is stuck and he can never leave the overlook. In the end, Jack tried to kill his family and do the overlook’s bidding; however, Jack is unsuccessful and ends up dying there himself. Jack in the picture of the overlook, 1921 July 4th, was a way to show the audience that there is more to Jack’s actions in the film and that there is a deeper story to the overlook.


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RE: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  Monahan on Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:17 pm

In my personal opinion, I believe that the reason Jack Torrence appears in the picture of the overlook is reincarnation, or possibly that he is a spirit haunting the Hotel. It is quite possible that he took a physical form, as Stanley Kubrick's The Shining is a work of fiction, so it can be left up to interpretation. After all, there must be some sort of supernatural presence at the Overlook Hotel with all the blood and ominous activities going on within it. Furthermore, in the beginning, Jack was told that he belonged at the Overlook Hotel, and I think he believed it. There must be something else going on that we don't know about at the hotel, and that effect is intentional in both the novel by King, and the film directed by Kubrick.

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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  mattiodapattio on Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:34 pm

I think Jack is shown in the picture on the July 4th 1921 ball to imply a scary fact. This implies that jack is actually a reincarnation of past care takers and just like the last one, it was destiny to come back to the hotel lose his mind and attempt to kill his family.

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Re: The Shining - What do you think?

Post  chrisn on Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:53 pm

Maybe the reason his likeness is seen in the picture is because he is a time traveller. He travelled to the future and met his wife and slowly forgot where he came from and how he got there. I thought of this because on the TV show, The Flash, Barry goes back in time to save his mother and continues to live his life in the past and slowly forgets his life before he altered it

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