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Post  Polidano on Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:04 pm

Why do you think Jack Torrence's likeness is seen in the picture of the Overlook during the 1921 July 4th ball? Question


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Why do you think Jack Torrence's likeness is seen in the picture of the Overlook during the 1921 July 4th ball?

Post  dannyd76 on Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:06 pm

You see Jack Torrence's likeness in the picture of the 1921 July 4th ball because that was probably the winter maintenance worker in the 1920s so Jack is a reincarnation of him so that is why he is seen in the photo. The ghost butler spoke to Jack about he has always been in the hotel and how he's destined to be there; Jack being at the hotel was his destiny and that is where he is supposed to be, it's his fate. Jack being in the photo shows that he is bound to the hotel and will never leave essentially. He will always be apart of the hotel. Fate is why we see Jack's likeness in the photo.

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Post  cerezok on Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:59 am

Jack is seen in the picture because he is being reincarnated through the dead people who stayed at the hotel. Throughout the story jack sees ghosts and talks to them but one ghost stands out to him. Mr.Grady is a ghost that Jack sees who tells him that Jack has always been the caretaker at the hotel. As a result Jack will always be stuck in the hotel and that is why he is seen in the picture.

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Post  Tommy De La Pena on Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:41 pm

I believe that Jack Torrence's likeness is within this picture due to him being a reincarnation of the previous caretaker at the time this is taken and is symbolic of him being destined to return to the Overlook hotel. When Jack begins to see the many ghosts that reside within the building, Jack encounters Mr. Grady later within the film. A previous caretaker of the Overlook hotel that slaughtered his own family. Jack tells him of this tale and his position within the hotel, in which Mr. Grady says he has no recollection of such a thing happening and that Jack is the one that is the caretaker. This suggests that Jack is a reincarnation of Mr. Grady and that he is destined to repeat the actions he has done in his past life. Also, I believe that when he had died his spirit had gone back to the hotel and is now trapped there with the other souls. Which is why his likeness is within the picture displayed at the end.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  reema_balouch on Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:39 pm

His picture is seen to tie up the story in a full circle denouement. Without words the movie wants to tell her that Jack Torrence is somehow a reincarnation of a man who use to spend his days at the hotel. His likeness is a sign that his spirit will keep reincarnating and pulling him back towards that hotel because it is his destiny to repeat history. During the whole movie we get subtle hints that do not make sense to us until the very end of the film where the picture is shown. We find an ironic scene where Jack is first told that the last family who lived in the hotel were killed by the husband who chopped up his wife and kids into tiny pieces with an axe. Jack then says that he can guarantee that won't happen to him, but that place slowly starts to consume and we see his character changing and growing more insane each day. Mr. Hallorann also explain to Danny what shinning is and that only certain people are able to identify it. This to makes Danny prone to seeing the hallucinations because his mind is opened to the idea. Jack also begins to hallucinate and every time he enters the bar it is seen to be set in a 1920's theme. He encounters a butler who accidentally spills a drink on him and they begin to talk. Jack says that he recalls the name Mr.Grady and says that he is the man who killed his own family however he simply responds with "I don't have any recollection of that.... you're the care taker, you always have been." Which also tells us that Jack has clearly been there before at least in another life and he is back in the same place to do what he did before. Mr.Grady also convinces Jack that he must take care of the business which is his family. His soul will forever be haunted and doomed to keep returning to the hotel as long as he keeps getting reincarnated.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  sophie sorhaitz on Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:33 pm

Jack is seen in the picture because he is a reincarnation of the guy who used to
Be the maintenance worker in 1921. He is seen in the picture to tie up the end of the story to show that he is the guy in the picture because when he was talking in the bathroom the other guy said to him that he never left so the picture makes you realize that he is the original guy that went crazy at the hotel and he was just repeating what had already happened to him

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The Shining

Post  zoyadavis on Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:30 pm


The likeness between the picture and Jack is so that we can understand that there is a almost reincarnation between the two. The old becomes the new, past actions are repeated and you almost see the root of the problem that turned Jack into the person he became. The picture also cause panic and anxiety amongst the audience, the character Jack builds a relationship with the audience and seeing the likeness makes the audience aware of the supernatural elements that are at play. Also the butler talks to Jack as if he never left the hotel, so it would seem on another level Jack was meant to come to the hotel take that certain position and meet the people he did. Its was like he had a preordain future that was suppose to happen. As well as the fact that in the end of the movie he froze to death and it's almost like his presence will forever be there at the hotel.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  amychristina on Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:50 pm

After Jack's chat with Mr. Grady, the caretaker at the time who had murdered his entire family, we learn through Jack's delusions that he is destined to be at The Overlook, this is pretty much his fate, and that he cannot leave. Mr. Grady tells Jack that he has always been here, that Jack himself is the caretaker and the ghost is confused by what Jack is telling him about murdering his family. But since Jack is way too deep into his insanity, and with the Hotel being successful in pulling him in and taking over his mind and body, we begin to see him as almost a reincarnation of Grady. Since it is his destiny to be at The Overlook, and also since I feel that the Hotel has possessed him, that is why his likeness shows up in the 1921 photo that is shown in the Hotel. History would have fully repeated itself is Jack had managed to kill Wendy and Danny, but since The Overlook could not capture them two, it will suffice with just Jack, as he is now the caretaker after all.

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Post  jacob kennedy on Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:59 pm

Throughout the film we knew that there was a caretaker before Jack. That care taker ended murdering his whole family from going insane in the hotel. Later on Jack started going crazy and started to see ghost especially the ghost of the previous caretaker of the hotel. He told Jack till kill his family as well as jack gets crazier and crazier. Jack follows the same path as the previous caretaker. The reason he looks so similar to the man in the picture from 1921 is because he is the reincarnation of the previous caretaker and it said that he has always been here.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  Marielle M on Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:23 pm

I believe that Jack Torrence's likeness is seen in the photograph at the end of the movie as concrete evidence of the idea that Jack has always been the caretaker of the hotel. Jack has been potentially reincarnated in this life to continue his job from a previous one. In the beginning of the movie, when Jack is getting a tour of the hotel, he is told a story about a legend that the spirits of the hotel are trapped there forever, endlessly returning. This could be the case with Jack and would explain why he is seen in a picture from the past of the hotel.

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Re: The Shining

Post  marlonG99 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:46 pm

Jack Torrence's likeness is in the picture due to the film rolling with the theme of fate/ reincarnation. In the picture it showed Jack in the hotel with the staff as the Over Looker. During the film the last Over Looker taunts him that he can't kill his family but also he revealed that he was the first Over Looker of the hotel who successfully killed his family. The picture at the end helps with the theme of fate/ reincarnation of how we can't escape the wheel of fate.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  angelG on Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:23 pm

The shot of Jack in the old picture to me was just a way of showing us that someone like Jack (not him specifically, but someone who has the same dangerous, unstable, tendencies) has always been (as was referred to in the bathroom scene with the butler guy) at the Overlook Hotel. The director wanted you to think and discuss the ending after watching the film.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  Brandonwright on Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:19 am

The reason you see Jack Torrence's likeness in the 1921 July 4th ball is because of the fact that Jack Torrence is a mirror image of the original caretaker of the hotel. He acts in the same deranged manner that the original caretaker would have and has multiple hallucinations of the old hotel. This leads many including myself to believe he is a reincarnation of the original caretaker and is the exact same person in a different body.

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Re: The Shining!

Post  Graemelynch on Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:44 pm

You see Jack's likeness in the picture to reinforce the idea of reincarnation in the film. The man in the picture must be the original caretaker who had successfully killed his family earlier. This picture just shows us that due to fate, Jack was predestined to end up murdering his family and taking care of the overlook. It almost ties the entire movie together as you see Jack enacting the exact same tendencies as the original caretaker and that photo is just shows us that Jack truly is just a reincarnated version of the original caretaker of the overlook.

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Jack Torrance picture likeness

Post  Serinadacosta on Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:46 pm

Jack Torrance likeness that is seen in the picture of the Overlook Hotel during 1921 July 4th ball was a likeness because it was his later life where he was the man that ran the Overlook .That's where he supposed to be so when he was there now he was going through the same thing he was before so that's caused him to hurt his son Danny and his wife Wendy which also caused him to go crazy. Which the picture proves that jack Torrance was there before and his life was stuck to the hotel which proves to the audience that he was there before.

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